obviously, a lot of investors still reeling from all the debate over a dividend tax, carried interest tax to what degree do you think those are going to be on the table as we try to work out some larger bargain? >> difficult to itemize or list what will be on the table. i will say, this the finance committee has worked for many months now to try to come to a consens consensus, early efforts just in this month, chairman baucus, talking to him yesterday, about this, reporting on where they are. so, i think there's a real sense of urgency now to get a consensus on tax reform, to have a simpler and fairer systems to deal with areas were there's consensus. believe it or not, despite all the fighting in washington, there's a great consensus that we need tax reform and i think there's a growing consensus about even the elements to it. >> well, tax reform, the question is the tax tape, do you thank you obama is shifting the debate now, that there is going to be far more taken in greater taxes for the wealthy and far less in spending cuts because that is the cret rick? >> difficult to predict.